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Hot on the heels
of their self-titled, major label debut on Smackdown Records, lead
singer Kelly Shaefer and bassist Migwell Pryzbyl of Neurotica
Florida's coolest export since orange juice ? sit down and chat with
us for BallBuster about touring with Ozzfest, bringing rock back to
it's roots and why lawn bowling just doesn't cut it when it comes
to down time.
Think hot, humid summer day. New York City. Downtown. East Village.
Overhead clouds are building in the sky. A storm is on the way. And
relief from the latest heatwave is right behind it in the form of
a northern cold front. But there's something even cooler coming from
the South. Sarasota, Florida, to be exact. In fact, it's already here.
And it's sitting right across from us in the conference room of Smackdown
Record's offices in NYC.
It's Neurotica. Chilling with the success of the hit single "All My
Friends Crush You" from their self-titled debut. And about to embark
on the hottest tour this summer. Ozzfest.
BallBuster:
So this could be a big year for you guys?
KS: Definitely. And definitely gonna take it for all it's worth. Very
honored to be part of Ozzfest, much respect for the whole event and
the people that put it on.
BB: What bands are you looking forward to playing alongside?
KS: Down. Love 'Pepper Keane' man, known Pepper for a long time, got
a lot of respect for him and Phil. System of A Down, I'm really feeling
that record a lot (Toxicity). They're great, man. Brilliant. Left
of center. And I always like that. And there are a lot of other bands
and a lot of good stuff I never heard. I hear that Mushroomhead are
really interesting. Looking forward to checking them out.
BB: You guys are from Sarasota. I happened to take a look at the city's
official website this morning. It says, "You cannot be bored in Sarasota
unless you want to be. You can enjoy bird watching, shell collecting,
golf, lawn bowling..." We want to know where you stand on the lawn
bowling.
KS: (laughing) Big lawn bowling fans!
MP: - I think possibly my Grandmother wrote that!
KS:Sarasota is one of the most beautiful places on earth and it's
an amazing place to live and we love it! The beaches are our favorite
part. Every time we meet someone, we're like, you've gotta come to
Sarasota, you've gotta come to the beach. That's where we spend of
a lot of our time. But it's a very boring city. I mean I pretty much
grew up there and there was nothing to do. No clubs to go to, nothing
for a teenager to do. So, I put a band together and that gave me something
to do 4-5 nights a week right off the bat and then it blossomed into
something good. He (pointing to Migwell) spent a lot of time in Buffalo.
MP - Yeah, my family grew up in Buffalo. Basically the same thing
as Sarasota, but you only get two sunny days a year. I'm a huge Bills
fan and after the four super bowl losses, my family decided to move
to Florida.
BB: We don't blame you. Rather rough?
KS: Sarasota though, not a great place. But Tampa is 50 miles away,
so we can go to Tampa and get our nightlife and play good shows. In
the late 80s, early 90s Death Metal was huge in Tampa and the scene
was great. Sarasota is a good place but it's not a fun place.
BB: You must be a welcome relief for the people there.
KS: Yeah, we hope so. When we would practice at our warehouse there
would be literally a hundred kids already there waiting?..like it
was a club or something. We would open our door and turn our amps
on and all these people would be there. That's how we got a lot of
our early followers. A lot of people started to come out to our practices
and then just kept coming back. Some people would come out and just
sit there and watch us write songs.
MP: Yeah! When they were there and we were working on a song, trying
to work out a riff...
KS: we'd ask them if they were bored. They'd say no. We'd play the
same song 100 times. They loved it. Once again...there's very little
to do in Sarasota. I mean if it were L.A. it would probably be different.
BB: How did you guys get together?
MP: I actually met him (Kelly) through a singer in a band I was playing
in. The singer was a promoter of an Atheist (Kelly's old band) show
in Buffalo. He introduced us.
KS: So, when our bass player from our very first indie record flaked
out, we called Miguel up. We had to pull him out of the woods. He
was out in the woods dancing naked....playing African drums! He goes
out in the woods and plays for days at a time! So we were like, 'Can
you make it?' He came out of the woods, showed up and has been here
ever since. (Laughter)
BB: You seem to like playing together.
KS: We love each other.
MP: Totally. We have a great time.
KS : Yeah, it's a very tight bunch of guys. We all have the same exact
interests, no one has a drug problem, , it's just very laid back.
The rest of the guys in the band are even more mellow. That's why
we're here?we're the most gggrrrrrrr!
MP: We drink a lot of caffeine, you know, Mountain Dews.
BB: You've got your Brian Johnson (AC/DC) connection. He discovered
you guys. You've got Ozzy Osbourne. You're going on tour with Ozzfest.
These older rockers seem to be in tune with you guys?
KS: We are really in tune with them. I mean, we are here as a result
of them.
BB: So they really influenced you?
KS: Hugely. Hugely influenced me personally. Still the riffs that
I write on guitar, you know 'Up in the Hay'(sings riff), those kinds
of riffs are all about Sabbath, man (sings riff). And Brian Johnson
is just a model of, as I have said many times before, of how to be
a rock star and how to be a modest, cool arsed mother and not be a
dick head, arrogant superstar ? he has been a huge influence on us
in that respect.
BB: You have a big following, obviously, in Florida. Do you think,
without Brian Johnson, you would be where you are? Would you hope
to be where you are? Did you see all this (success) coming 7 years
ago before Ozzfest even began?
KS: I mean it will sound pompous but yeah. We never saw it any other
way. We were fortunate enough to have some help along the way and
in a lot of ways it wasn't as much as people think. It confused some
people that we were working with Brian cos they go 'Oh, cool, they
(Neurotica), must sound like AC/DC' and we don't sound anything like
AC/DC. So I think a lot of people got confused and may not have did
not check out the band right away because of that connection, you
know? But certainly without Brian giving us that push at that point,
we might very well have been 2 years later to the game. But he really
picked things up for us.
BB: This interview is going to run in the US and the UK. Do you have
any experiences from the UK, do you have any favorite venues? How
does the audience differ from playing the States? Any favorite bands?
KS: This band hasn't been to Europe yet. My old band Aethist ventured
to Europe several times so I am familiar with it myself and he (Migwell)
has traveled in Europe. But the clubs over there are significantly
different from here, the whole response. In my opinion, the European
people are true fans of the band and they stay, they're loyal..they
stay with a band and they love a band and they will always love a
band. They very rarely turn on a band unless the band turns on them.
I loved the people, man. Atheist put out like three records and those
kids would come to the shows, carrying them. You never see kids at
American shows carrying around the record collection from the band
that they are seeing and literally 100 out of a 1,000 of the (European)
kids are carrying around those records for the whole night. I mean,
it's hot, they gotta hold their drink, they gotta do all this stuff.
but yet they want to bring the records and they want you to sign them,
and they're just true fans and it makes you feel good as a musician.
You go to LA and everybody's, like, (KS sits still with arms folded
staring), everybody's out in the crowd like that ? it's just not that
way in Europe at all. I shouldn't beat LA up ? as a whole though they're
jaded, they seem to expect things more than European kids do. European
kids appreciate things a little bit more.
BB: So where do you think the epicenter of rock music is? Is it London,
NY, LA?
KS: Wow. Right now, I don't know what's going on in London but I would
venture to guess that if it is headed in a rock (direction), if it
is headed away from 'hip-hop' metal into rock then bet your ass that
Europe is on it first. Europe will grab onto it first and England
in general will sort of cater itself to letting rock back in, hard
rock back in, just pure hard rock and good tunes, no hybrid stuff...no
confusion...no 'is this a rap band or a rock band...no what kind of
band is this?'. They (Europeans) just seem to grab it and put it up
and then go with it. Hopefully the American kids, I think they're
coming around ? I think they are also looking forward to different
vocal styles and sounds cos the music has been very samey, samey here
for a long while. And if you listen to all these bands on the radio
today ? a lot of them are just very much alike. Ironically, we were
listening to a commercial on the way up to the airport for three local
bands, fairly prominent local bands from where we come from in Florida.
Remember the commercial, Miguel? (KS asks MP). MP ? Oh yeah. KS ?
First song, (sings riff), second band, (sings riff), sounds like the
same band, like the exact same band. And even some of the mainstream
top 10 artists of today, if you go through the top 20 you can find
five of those bands that sound exactly alike, all in that same format.
It's gotta change, it's gotta break away, man, into something different.
In order for that to happen people have got to kind of question it
and that's what's happening with Neurotica a lot. We have a different
sound, we have a different sort of vocal style, different qualities
to our music that aren't really around right now. They are things
that have happened in the past but we have incorporated them with
this new, sort of younger vibe, more modern vibe. So I think that
given the opportunity on a situation like Ozzfest that these kids
are gonna see it in a live setting and are gonna feel it.
BB: That's what you really think Ozzfest is gonna do for you then?
Open you up to all sorts of kids? A whole new audience?
KS: Absolutely. I think people are gonna come with a pre-conceived
notion of what we're like and then they're gonna leave with a different
notion. I feel confident that we can do that. We've done it in the
past and I feel like we'll do it again. We don't take no for an answer,
we're not afraid to get in somebody's face and we're not afraid to
have a show and pull the crowd in. I'm not the kind of front man that
likes to hide behind the microphone and be all quiet and mysterious
and say nothing between songs. I wanna have a party and I want everybody
else to have a party and that's the way rock shows oft to be and that's
the way we want them to be.
BB: What do you see at the moment over here as regards to the overall
rock scene?
KS: Well, I mean the past 3 years it's been this new metal thing that
people call it and I think that probably in the next 18 months it's
gonna be back to, not back to, heading to, songs that can last for
20 years. People want stuff that you know they never tire of hearing.
I'm still not tired of hearing Zeppelin records, still not tired of
hearing Black Sabbath records, I can listen to them over and over
and over for the rest of my life, I'll never be tired of those records.
Why? Cos it's great music. Its great timeless music that will last
forever and there are many other great bands that fall into that category
but that is what needs to happen right now. That in my opinion will
help the record industry instead of all this instant sh*t ? it needs
to be stuff that can last and survive a lifetime and can have legs
for 20 years, you know, not just for 6 months or the summer. With
the video age and MTV they'll pump a song in the summertime and suddenly
in the fall that song is done and nobody wants to hear it anymore.
They've pounded it into the ground, they did everything they could
to cram it down everybody's throat and everybody's like, bleugh, they
start to regurgitate it. I would rather be the band that you swallow
and gain weight from rather than throwing it up. It's a weird analogy
but most of today's music you swallow and throw the f*ck back up and
move on. I just think that we want to play a role in making quality
music that lasts. Something that 20 years from now kids can look back
on and go ', that inspires me to play music. I don't wanna play this
(type of) music, I wanna play music like that (like Neurotica).' The
same way I am still inspired now.
BB: So that is your vision of the future then, making songs that are
gonna last? To stand the test of time.
KS: Sure. We need to create the new 'Stairway to Heaven' you know
those songs that are just legendary, there's 'Dream On' there's 'Walking
in the Sand', just songs that are such a part of our culture, even
today. Even younger people are into those songs too, you know what
I mean? You gotta be able to write songs that when whoever is into
when you are out and you are current - 20 years from now their kids
should be able to get into your music as well. It should be that timeless,
man. That's Aerosmith, Sabbath, and Zeppelin. Even early Metallica
and stuff like that, I feel like those records will live on for a
long time. I will always go back and listen to 'Ride the Lightning'
and albums like that but not really so much of the new stuff.
BB:You consider this instant/new metal music just kids getting a fix
right?
KS: Yeah. It's just how many records can you sell. I don't want to
write music like that. I would love for 10 million to love our record
and go buy it.
BB: That kinda ties in to what you said on your website (www.neurotica.net)
when you said 'I want to write a song the whole world can sing'. Do
you think you've achieved that yet with the 2 songs that are being
played, 'Ride of Your Life' and 'All My Friends Crush You'?
KS: I do think that there are songs on this record (the new cd) like
'Stars in my Eyes' and 'Ride of Your Life' that could last a really,
really long time. I believe 'Stars in my Eyes' is the kind of song
that I would love to see become a single. It's very emotional, it's
very sincere, it's moody but it still rocks. When we made this record
we wanted to not have any of the tracks be questionable, we wanted
to make sure that every one of them was Pow! They've all got their
place and not one song shouldn't be there. We're definitely confident
in it, that's how we feel about it. We are definitely very proud of
the album. We wrote a lot of songs before making this record, we had
a lot to choose to from. But these were the ones we were ready to
bank on - then we have a whole pocketful of new ones.
BB: You've got ammo.
KS: We can reload.
BB: So five years from now, where are you going to be?
KS: I want to be at the top of our game, man. I want to be leading
the pack. Not interested in selling the most amount of records, not
interested in any of that. I just want to be a respected musician
and I want to contribute to what I love?the music industry and the
music in general and creating music that helps the kids get through
their lives. Music is therapeutic. It's therapy for everyone, no one
is untouched by it. Can you imagine a world without music? You can't?you
can't imagine it, it's like imagining life without air! You can't
live. I don't care if you're into Arabian music or whatever, everybody
has a soundtrack to their life.
BB: Right.
KS: And I want to be involved in the movie soundtrack of everyone's
life in five years from now.
BB: You see bands, extreme bands. You know, like Slipknot. You see
them, on "Resident Evil"?movies like that. That's fine with you having
the extreme become mainstream?
KS: I think don't there's anything wrong with that?I know that many,
many would say differently. So, you're in the wrong business. I want
to touch people. I mean, if you go buy the record, then that's great.
We (Neurotica) get an opportunity to have a nice life. But, more importantly,
if I had a choice, and this is honest, as much as everybody would
love to be comfortable financially. If I had a choice of everyone
in the world digging the music or making a whole lot of money to me
it's more important if someone walks up to me and says, man, you know
I have this situation, broke up with my girl and I listened to your
song, and it really helped me. Unless you write a song and have someone
come up and say that to you?it sounds cheesy as hell, but it gets
you. It's like wow! I sat in my room or in a warehouse with my guys
and we created this sh*t out of thin air and someone 10,000 miles
away is like 'you helped me get through my life'. That's like Wow!
Holy sh*t. That's like being medicine. Being human medicine and that's
a great job. That's a job everyone should have. If everybody's job
was that gratifying then we would all be a lot happier. I'm very glad
we chose this life.
BB: So you feel as if you have the best job in the world?
KS: Absolutely man. It's certainly not all perks that's for sure!
The boot camp is brutal but once you get to the point where you get
an opportunity like we're being given, we'll never take it for granted.
We will never, ever not appreciate it and not think for a minute that
it can't be taken away just as quickly as it was given to us. -
BB: You clearly have a lot of fans. They're a lot of hits on your
website and you have a huge message board.
KS: It's cool man. There's been a group of a couple of thousands of
kids that have stayed in contact with us through all this--since '95.
You know, they're believers. People that really believed we were a
different kind of band, but the industry just wouldn't allow it early
on. They just wouldn't allow us to be the kind of band we are now.
They wanted a fusion of turntables and all this crap. We're just drums,
bass, guitars and vocals. You know, I'd much rather lay it out like
that.
BB: Do you respond to emails from fans?
KS: I respond to 100 emails a day.
BB: Can I ask you something?I saw a message on there. Can I ask you
how you responded to it? This is from Neuroticagirl, who posted a
message and she says, "Although you guys are really ugly, can I (bleep)
you?" How did you respond to that?! (laughter).
KS: That, to be honest with you, is not a Neurotica girl. There are
some people in our town that are a little bitter.
BB: Really?
KS - Sure, there are musicians in our town that feel that they deserve
it more. You know, and that probably goes with any scene. I'm quite
certain that's not a girl. That's a guy writing something to try to
make us look stupid. You know, if that's what the girl thought, ?that's
hilarious. I wouldn't respond to it though. I think it's funny. You
have to be prepared. If you think about Fred Durst and what that guy
went through, I've always been a firm believer that you really have
to be hated to be loved. And in order to be successful, there has
to be an equal amount of people who hate your guts and hate everything
that you do.
BB: Do you think there are some artists that have turned that on their
head? Like Eminem?.Marilyn Manson. Do you think these artists are
doing what they are doing for the attention or they just love to be
hated?
KS: I think they love to be hated because it makes them loved. When
people hate you, they express their opinion more than when people
love you. If you're mad about something, you're going to let everybody
know about it, if you love somebody, you may not come out and say,
"I love everyone", you know. I mean, when you're mad, your mad and
everyone knows it. So that causes other people to go well, I'm not.
I love this! And so the next thing you've got a battle and people
battling and that's what you need! If people form an opinion about
you, then you're on the right track. So we're prepared for lots of
haters and that's cool.
BB: So you think Marilyn Manson says what he feels or says what he
knows is going to get a reaction?
KS: Marilyn has been in FL for a long time. He spent most of his musical
life in Ft. Lauderdale. He always was weird and always said what he
wanted to say and always didn't give a shit what people thought. We're
not really like that. I mean we're not trying to get people's reactions
that way. I just want to write good songs and get reactions out of
people. I don't really want to knock someone's head off or cut guts
out of something to get a reaction. Or drop my pants and sling my
willy around. We're not really into that side of it. I want people
to react to the music like you know when you hear a song and someone
performs it really well, you go, God damn, it moved me, man. You know,
it moved me so much that I'll always be a fan of this band. That to
me is the reaction that I would rather get.
BB: This WWF connection. I just want to talk about this. You're on
their Smackdown Records (label).
KS: Absolutely.
BB: What does that give you as a band?
KS: Well...an unprecedented situation of marketing monster ness. You
take a great rock band and expose them on television in the right
way and it explodes! You know it's a quality marketing venture and
a quality hard rock band. You fuse them together and it should be
an explosion.
BB: You're not scared about being tainted with the wrestling thing?
Do you like wrestling?
KS: We're not scared of that, so to speak, because we feel like we
have control of that. We feel like everybody involved on our team
understands that would be hokey for us to jump up in the ring and
go RRRRR! We're not that kind of band and they didn't sign us with
that intention. Some in the pool may have thought that along the way?WWF
may have thought that way. A lot of people may have that perception
but we're going to change that perception. We're not a band that's
just a wrestling band. We are, however, a band that wrestles!
BB: Do you have any favorite wrestlers? Are you that much into wrestling?
KS: Oh yeah! Been watching since we were little kids. There's no one
more charismatic than the Rock. We used to watch old wrestlers like
Dusty Roads, when we were little kids before the WWF was released.
In Florida, wrestling was really popular go to see at the time. Rapid
Assassin, Bad Bad LeRoy Brown. All these old wrestlers. I was really
amazed at what it became! I remember Vince McMahon as an announcer.
It's amazing. The whole company is just silly. It makes so much sense
for them to market music, it's not even funny. They've been doing
it for other people ? why not us?
BB: What do you think about the song Bodies and the exposure it got?
KS: I'm sure I'm not the first one to say that without that exposure
- with Bodies on that program?they literally sold 65,000 copies and
when that sh*t happened on there?they (Drowning Pool) sold a couple
of 100,000 copies without being involved in other programming. So,
their records sales were directly affected six fold just by exposure.
BB: So is any exposure good exposure?
KS: Yeah man.
BB: Bad press is better than no press?
KS: Absolutely! Like I said, if they hate you,
somebody else has got to love you. Someone has to have an opposite
opinion of it. So, if everybody hates it that you're on TV so much?it's
funny because everyone goes 'I hate Creed!'?.well somebody is buying
their records. MP ? 10 million people somewhere people bought their
album. KS: It almost works like that ?you need to be hated to be loved.
I'm also hoping that we can raise the rock gene pool to make it a
little more interesting. But the marketing aspect of the WWF Smackdown
is unlimited. I don't think they realize the potential of what they
can do a rock and roll bands. You don't want to hear something mellow
and passive behind wrestling. When you see people beating the crap
out of each other, you want to hear Pantera. Earlier on a lot of our
friends are like oh, are you going to make theme music for the WWF?
No. We're making a regular record for a label that just happens to
be owned by the WWF. So, I think it's going to be great.
BB: I wish you the best of luck.
KS: ? There are 26 million people a week that watch that program and
if 5% of those people feel Neurotica then we're good. That's the way
I look at it. We're on Smackdown records.com. They've got our song
right up there. That's huge exposure! They have four magazines that
sell 250,000 every month. They're in a position to run unlimited ads.
That's what it's all about?exposing people. If a band sucks and you
expose the world to them, you expose them to a sucky band. But if
it's a good band and you have that kind of exposure, it can't be a
bad thing.
BB: Ok, last thoughts?.say someone came in here and had never heard
your music. Never seen you guys before. Is there anything you would
want to say to them?
KS: Gotta get it. Gotta turn it to 11. Gotta crank it up. It's not
background music. You want to listen to it in loud volume. And you
must come see this band at least once live. If you still don't dig
it?then fair enough. But I promise, by the time they leave, you'll
have respect for us.
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